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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Anniston, Alabama#The Civil War. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 12:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Charley Lloyd (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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Person whose only notability seems to be being killed during the American Civil War and living near where a city was founded 20 years later. The majority of the content already exists in Anniston, Alabama#the Civil War. Mentioned in passing in one source, but I can't find any other sources about him. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 23:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. Altairisfar (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The notability of this person lies in the fact that he was executed with only a summary military trial, while in fact he was innocent. Being virtually the only resident of what was to become Anniston, a town which was formed by a former Union general (usually rederred to as a "carpetbagger"), he was essential to the city's history. Further, this incident was, in essence, the "battle of Anniston" in that it was actually an engagement between Union and Confederate troops, resulting in the deaths, in battle of two Union soldiers after Lee's surrender. An additional published authority describing the incident has been added to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexwanknitob (talk • contribs) 23:49, 15 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Notability not established.Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:37, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Additional citation was added, showing notability: Anniston Star Sunday, July 4, 1976, p.11E — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexwanknitob (talk • contribs) 22:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Notability established with new citation. Part of the folklore of Alabama.MadZarkoff (talk) 01:42, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Can you have more sources backing that claim up? Secret account 03:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi. I found out about Lloyd on a side trip to New Orleans. He is notable as being one of the foremost historical figures of that area if not the single foremost such figure. He is described not only online but in the brochure of the leading tourism agency of the region -- that citation has been added. If he had been a resident of a large met center in the north, he would have had statues and schools named after him. WP notability should be based on the relative contribution of an individual to his region or area, and with that in mind he should be considered notable.
- Can you have more sources backing that claim up? Secret account 03:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
MadZarkoff (talk) 20:08, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I couldn't find anything substantive in a Google scholar/google news, LexisNexis search about this historical figure in either this name or as Charlie Taylor or about a "battle of Anniston" other than an 1898 incident that may be notable for Wikipedia. There was one passing mention on a man named "Lloyd" in a book about the raid (as mentioned above), but who knows if it's the same person, being a common surname. One mention in the local town newspaper 35 years ago isn't enough to satisfy WP:V. Do not merge or redirect neither. Sorry Secret account 03:07, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Redirect as already covered in the town article. Spartaz Humbug! 15:49, 21 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.